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Red Sonya · Feb 27, 2008, 03:24 AM // 03:24

And this is the stat sheet that says it all

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[edit] Top PC sellers by genre
Adventure – Myst (6 million)[154]
Computer role-playing game – Diablo II (4 million)[157]
First-person shooter – Half-Life (8 million)[153]
Third-person shooter - Mafia: The City of Lost Heaven (2 million)[175]
Massively multiplayer online role-playing game – Lineage 2 (14 million customers)[147]
Real-time strategy – StarCraft (9.5 million, includes StarCraft: Brood War)[152]
Simulation – The Sims (16 million shipped,[145] 29 million including expansions)[146]

Notice GW is not in that list, but, DIABLO 2 IS!

I rest my case your honor.

Cacheelma · Feb 27, 2008, 03:37 AM // 03:37

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Originally Posted by King Symeon

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...puter_games#PC

We're about to overtake Myst guys!

I'm not sure it's a fair comparison as we're talking about 5 millions from 4 GAMES (according to that page), which you can also count as 1 game and 3 expansions.

Notice how other games' expansions have separated sell counts?

HawkofStorms · Feb 27, 2008, 03:42 AM // 03:42

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Originally Posted by Red Sonya

And this is the stat sheet that says it all

Notice GW is not in that list, but, DIABLO 2 IS!

I rest my case your honor.

Please tell me the date that page of that site you are quoting was most reccently updated.

And actually, they aren't Cacheelma. The Sims and stuff includes expansions, it just also breaks it down further (ie, 14 million, 1 million of which are so and so).

hallomik · Feb 27, 2008, 03:42 AM // 03:42

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The Sims (16 million shipped,[145] 29 million including expansions)[146]
Lineage 2 (14 million customers)[147]
The Sims 2 (13 million)[148]
The Sims 2: Pets [expansion pack] (5.6 million)[149]
The Sims 2: Seasons [expansion pack] (1 million)[149]
World of Warcraft (10 million subscribers)[150]
World of Warcraft: The Burning Crusade [expansion pack] (3.5 million)[150][151]
StarCraft (9.5 million, includes StarCraft: Brood War)[152]
Half-Life (8 million)[153]
Myst (6 million)[154]
Guild Wars (5 million, includes Factions, Nightfall, and Eye of the North)[155]
Cossacks: European Wars (4 million)[156]
Diablo II (4 million)[157]
Diablo II: Lord of Destruction [expansion pack] (1 million)[157]
Frogger (4 million)[158]
Half-Life 2 (4 million)[159]
Populous (4 million)[160][161]
RollerCoaster Tycoon (4 million in North America)[162]
Doom 3 (3.5 million)[163]
EverQuest (3.5 million)[164]
Theme Park (3.5 million)[161]
Age of Empires (3 million)[165]
Age of Empires: The Rise of Rome [expansion pack] (1 million)[165]
Command & Conquer: Red Alert (3 million)[166]
Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos (3 million)[167]
Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne [expansion pack] (1 million)[168]
Anno 1602 (2.5 million)[169]
Cossacks 2: Napoleonic Wars (2.5 million)[170]
Diablo (2.5 million)[157]
Battlefield 1942 (2.44 million)[171]
Battlefield 2 (2.09 million)[171]
Baldur's Gate (2 million)[172]
Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn (2 million)[172]
Black & White (2 million)[173][161]
Civilization III (2 million)[33]
Doom II: Hell on Earth (2 million)[174]
Mafia: The City of Lost Heaven (2 million)[175]
Neverwinter Nights (2 million)[176]
Ragnarok Online (2 million North American subscribers)[177]
Riven (2 million)[154]
Warcraft II: Tides of Darkness (2 million)[178]
Age of Empires II: The Age of Kings (2 million shipped)[179]
BioShock (2 million shipped, includes Xbox 360 version)[19]
Sacred (1.8 million)[180]
Civilization IV (1.7 million)[105]
Quake (1.7 million)[181]
S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Shadow of Chernobyl (1.65 million)[182]
Age of Empires III (1.5 million)[183]
Command & Conquer: Tiberian Sun (1.5 million)[184]
Duke Nukem 3D (1.5 million)[185]
Star Wars Galaxies (1.5 million)[186]
The Orange Box (at least 1.5 million)[27]
Battlefield Vietnam (1.34 million)[171]
Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone (1.3 million in US)[187]
SimCity 3000 Unlimited (1.1 million in US)[187]
Zoo Tycoon (1.1 million in US)[187]
Crysis (1 million)[188]
Age of Mythology (1 million)[189]
American McGee's Alice (1 million)[190]
Blade Runner (1 million)[191]
Dungeon Lords (1 million)[192]
Command & Conquer: Tiberium Wars (1 million)[193]
Empire Earth (1 million)[194]
Glory of the Roman Empire (1 million)[195]
Imperivm III: Great Battles of Rome (1 million, distributed only in Italy and Spain)[196]
Operation Flashpoint: Cold War Crisis (1 million)[197]
Patrician III: L'Impero Dei Mari (1 million, distributed only in Italy and Spain)[198]
Phantasmagoria (1 million)[199]
Quake II (1 million)[200]
Return to Castle Wolfenstein (1 million shipped)[200]
Return to Zork (1 million)[201]
Runaway: A Road Adventure (1 million)[202]
The Legend of Sword and Fairy 3 (1 million)[203]
Unreal (1 million)[204]
Unreal Tournament (1 million)[204]

If Wikipedia is to be believed, GW is the 11th best selling game of all time. And all people can say is that it hasn't sold as much as WOW and Lineage?

LOI (laughing on the inside)

Gratz to Anet.

WNL · Feb 27, 2008, 03:47 AM // 03:47

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Originally Posted by Red Sonya

And this is the stat sheet that says it all

Notice GW is not in that list, but, DIABLO 2 IS!

I rest my case your honor.

LoL, i just have to register to say this, if you read properly, it says by genre, GW probably is not in the Computer role-playing game genre.

If you say Massively multiplayer online role-playing game, even WoW is not listed there due to Lineage 2, LoL try again, noob.

sagilltwins · Feb 27, 2008, 03:54 AM // 03:54

Grats on 5 million Anet!

Cacheelma · Feb 27, 2008, 04:01 AM // 04:01

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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

And actually, they aren't Cacheelma. The Sims and stuff includes expansions, it just also breaks it down further (ie, 14 million, 1 million of which are so and so).

Look again (or look at the post below you), the Sims, for example, shipped 16 millions, but if you count the expansions too it would be 29 millions (second number).

Celestial_Kitsune · Feb 27, 2008, 04:04 AM // 04:04

Congrats to Anet.

This post might give some estimate of GW active population if the assumptions about the Xfire statistics are true.

Jamison0071 · Feb 27, 2008, 04:57 AM // 04:57

Congrats Anet! You deserve it!

Bryant Again · Feb 27, 2008, 05:08 AM // 05:08

As a normal computer RPG, it's been an awesome success. As an MMO, not so much (even though it's marketted as one :\ )

DarkWasp · Feb 27, 2008, 05:50 AM // 05:50

Funny thing is, the numbers are so variable.

For example, Half-Life 2. Probably the greatest SinglePlayer FPS of its time and years to come, right? Doom 3 is Right behind it in sales. When Doom 3 came out everyone in the world bought it, most of them were dissapointed.

You don't hear about doom 3 much anymore. It stole a good bit of sales from HL2 though.

Comparing WoW to GW is an epic dissaster saleswise.

GW could better be compared to Warcraft 3.

Why does WoW sell so much better? A few reasons actauly.

A. It had more hype than DOOM 3 and everyone who was willing to pay monthly for a game started planning on it years before release. (They also started convincing themselves it had good graphics.)

B. Everyone loved WC3

C. Everyone was looking for just a MMORPG with quality.

D. Popularity has a major impact.

E. WoW is a cult that sucks people in. (Most of them can stay there for all I care.)

F. Willam Shatner advertised for them. Thats right, Cpt. Kirk! The versy same guy who knocked out an alien with his back! With moves like that, for sure he can beat Chuck Norris!

Oh and G. it has a NUDE MOD! (If Anet lets this happen to us though, i'll drive over there and throw eggs at their windows.)

Exoudeous · Feb 27, 2008, 06:25 AM // 06:25

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Originally Posted by Zinger314

I would like to remind you all that 5 mil compies does not equal 5 million players. Not even close to 5 million players. I'd expect it's still at 300,000ish. (I did the math earlier and concluded that about 320,000 accounts purchase GWEN.)

The $10 Prophecies also helped.

why do you need to remind, no one even so much as a hint that they thought it meant 5 million players in this thread. looks like another attempt at trolling

why do you spend so much time on these forums when you dont like the game?

Bryant Again · Feb 27, 2008, 06:40 AM // 06:40

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Originally Posted by DarkWasp

F. Willam Shatner advertised for them. Thats right, Cpt. Kirk! The versy same guy who knocked out an alien with his back! With moves like that, for sure he can beat Chuck Norris!

For many more it was Mr. T that sold it for them ; ) You can't mess with a Nightelf Mohawk! Oh and Mini Me.

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Originally Posted by DarkWasp

Oh and G. it has a NUDE MOD! (If Anet lets this happen to us though, i'll drive over there and throw eggs at their windows.)

The closest we've gotten so far is making the 15k Druid Female armor braless.

That said, two games that are tailored for entirely different audiences. That was one of the biggest problems with GW1, was that it had very little to offer as an MMO. As an RPG it had a lot and could keep you locked to your computer for a very long time. As long as they advertise the game for the right audience, GW2 will kick much more ass than GW1 ever could.

Also note that we're basing off copies sold (GW) to active accounts (WoW.) This isn't directed to you, but just a throw out in the air: If WoW is as bad as a game as everyone here says it is, imagine how many people had to have bought the game to hold onto 10million players D:!

And Doom 3 kicked ass, by the way. I was so tense, scared and nervous when I reached Delta Labs that I had to turn off my computer. Awesome times >: )

Lonesamurai · Feb 27, 2008, 07:01 AM // 07:01

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Guild Wars Tops Five Million Units Sold

Guild Wars franchise breaks major milestone in less than three years.

Tuesday 26th February/... Brighton, UK — NCsoft® Europe and ArenaNet® have announced that the Guild Wars® franchise of online roleplaying games has surpassed five million units sold in Europe, North America, and Asia.

Published by NCsoft and developed by ArenaNet, the Guild Wars franchise consists of the original Guild Wars, Guild Wars Factions™, Guild Wars Nightfall™, and the recently released expansion, Guild Wars: Eye of the North™. The Guild Wars games have been commercial and critical successes since the release of the original campaign in April of 2005. Its award-winning content and innovative subscription-free business model have created a large and loyal following that is highly anticipating Guild Wars® 2.

“Guild Wars is a proven success and has set a new standard for online RPG games with its unique business model and superior playability,” said NCsoft CEO Taek Jin Kim. “ArenaNet is dedicated to creating games that expand the market and provide great new content to our loyal player base. This success has built a great foundation from which the next generation of Guild Wars games will grow.”

With the development of Guild Wars 2 underway, ArenaNet will continue to provide dedicated support to current Guild Wars games and its millions of customers.

“Reaching the five million mark is extremely gratifying for us at ArenaNet because it shows the hard work and dedication we put into our games has resonated with the fans,” said Mike O’Brien, co-founder of ArenaNet. “We are committed to supporting all of our Guild Wars players, and at the same time, we’re extremely excited to work on the game’s evolution. Certainly the future of Guild Wars is as bright as its past and present.”

For more information on the Guild Wars franchise, visit the Guild Wars website at http://www.discoverguildwars.com. The award-winning Guild Wars series, including the recently released Guild Wars: Eye of the North, can be purchased from retailers or downloaded from the PlayNC store at http://eu.plaync.com/eu/store/.

Congrats to ANet

Bryant Again · Feb 27, 2008, 07:02 AM // 07:02

Allow me to be the first.

Lonesamurai · Feb 27, 2008, 07:04 AM // 07:04

Damn, just got my press releases through this morning... damn my new job...

Delete please

Abedeus · Feb 27, 2008, 07:06 AM // 07:06

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we’re extremely excited to work on the game’s evolution.

Ha. Ha. I lol'd.

Gz on 5 mln, how many of them are active players, not bots/gold sellers?

Sergeant of Marines · Feb 27, 2008, 07:23 AM // 07:23

Grats ANET!

Have loved every min of the game play!

Stormlord Alex · Feb 27, 2008, 07:51 AM // 07:51

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Originally Posted by WNL

LoL, i just have to register to say this, if you read properly, it says by genre, GW probably is not in the Computer role-playing game genre.

If you say Massively multiplayer online role-playing game, even WoW is not listed there due to Lineage 2, LoL try again, noob.

Epic... Even the new guy is beating down Sonya

Wasted first post though, imo, WNL - Sonya has proved many times before he/she/it is incredibly stupid

Red Sonya · Feb 27, 2008, 08:20 AM // 08:20

Lol I told you Stormlord I don't take up your bad habits or IGMOisms

The truth is in the Wiki and Diablo 2 is on the list and GW isn't. That's all that matters.

Plus it took GW 4 titles to reach 5 million sales it only took Diablo 2 two.

It's expansion sold 1 million copies if you'd care to look. lol poor loser IGMO hahahaha.